{"id":77,"date":"2015-08-06T02:47:08","date_gmt":"2015-08-06T02:47:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ican-online.org\/cbac\/?page_id=77"},"modified":"2015-08-06T02:47:08","modified_gmt":"2015-08-06T02:47:08","slug":"should-i-try-for-vbac-again","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.ican-online.org\/cbac\/healing-after-a-cbac\/should-i-try-for-vbac-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Should I Try for VBAC Again?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"wsite-content-title\"><span style=\"color: #990000; font-size: x-large;\">Should I Try for VBAC Again?<\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"paragraph\">\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">One of the most difficult dilemmas CBAC moms face is whether or not to have more children, and if they do, whether to schedule an Elective Repeat Cesarean Section (ERCS) or try for a VBAC again.<\/p>\n<p>There is no one right answer to this. Different mothers will choose different things, and this is perfectly fine. One woman&#8217;s answer does not have to be <em>your <\/em>answer, nor will your answer suit every woman.<\/p>\n<p>Some mothers will decide to end their family at its current size rather than risk going through another cesarean, either planned or during labor. For some, it&#8217;s just too emotionally painful to go through pregnancy and another cesarean again.<\/p>\n<p>Some will decide to go ahead and have another child, but will choose a repeat cesarean so they don&#8217;t have to risk ending up with another CBAC. For them, a CBAC is so emotionally devastating that they don&#8217;t want to even chance it again. It may feel emotionally safer to just choose a planned cesarean from the get-go.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Others may have trouble finding a provider that supports VBAC after 2 Cesareans (VBA2C) and so may not have a choice, even though the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) supports VBA2C as an option. Others will have trouble finding a provider that supports VBAC after more than 2 prior cesareans (VBAC after Multiple Cesareans, or VBAMC), even though there <em>are <\/em>care providers who still support higher-order VBAMC.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, many CBAC moms decide to go for a VBAC again. They want more children and would rather\u00a0avoid the substantial risks of repeated cesareans, which include an increasing chance of surgical injury, hemorrhage, hysterectomy, cesarean scar pregnancy, and placental disorders like previa, abruption, and accreta (Silver 2006, Rosen 2008).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Many CBAC mothers may want to avoid the pain of yet another surgical recovery, especially with other children in the house who need active mothering. Although they have managed to deal with unwelcome cesareans before and could again if need be, they would like to avoid having to do so if possible, and so choose to go for a VBAC again.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">All of these decisions have been chosen by CBAC mothers in the past, and <em>all <\/em>are perfectly legitimate choices. Only you can figure out which is the right one for <em>you.\u00a0<\/em><br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #8d5024; font-size: x-large;\">Should CBAC Mothers Have Another Opportunity to VBAC?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">One of the most pressing questions for many CBAC women is whether they will be &#8220;allowed&#8221; to try for a VBAC again. In this hostile birth climate where even many first-time VBAC candidates cannot find support, it is even harder to find support for \u00a0VBAC after CBAC.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">At this time, many hospitals do not support VBAMC of any kind, but because ACOG recently revised its VBAC guidelines to support a VBAC after 2 prior cesareans, more CBAC mothers now will have the option to try. And there <em>are <\/em>a few providers out there who will support higher-order VBACs as well.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Sadly, many will face roadblocks from doctors who tell them that they are no longer a &#8220;good candidate&#8221; for a trial of labor (TOL) because they had a CBAC.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yet this is based more on the care provider&#8217;s biases than on actual facts.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Because of the increased morbidity associated with a &#8220;failed trial of labor,&#8221; many researchers have tried to invent a model that can accurately predict who will and won\u2019t have a VBAC. Although it is possible to predict with some precision who <\/span><em>will<\/em><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> have a successful VBAC, most research has found it very difficult to predict accurately who will <\/span><em>not<\/em><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> have a VBAC (<\/span><em>Dinsmoor and Brock, 2004; Grobman et al., 2007<\/em><span style=\"color: #000000;\">). Other authors (<\/span><em>Eden 2010<\/em><span style=\"color: #000000;\">) reviewed a number of VBAC prediction models and concluded:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 <\/span><em>Current scored models provide reasonable predictability for VBAC, but none provides consistent ability to identify<br \/>\nwomen at risk for failed trial of labor.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #515151;\">In other words, care providers cannot predict accurately who will <em>not <\/em>have a VBAC.<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Prediction models can help care providers tell you if you have characteristics that give a high probability of having a VBAC (for example, a prior vaginal birth, a non-recurring prior indication for cesarean like breech, fetal distress, etc.), but they <em>cannot <\/em>accurately tell you who should not have a trial of labor because they are unlikely to<em>\u00a0<\/em>have a VBAC.<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #515151;\">Many women have had very low scores in VBAC prediction models and still ended up having a VBAC.<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">VBAC prediction models are one more piece of information to consider in decision-making, but the poor performance of these prediction models mean that their use must be treated with great caution when denying women the right to a TOL.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Although women with a &#8220;failed&#8221; VBAC have a higher rate of complications (<em>El-Sayed 2007, Hibbard 2001, Durnwald and Mercer 2004<\/em>), researchers have found\u00a0that they are not able to predict <em>which <\/em>women will experience major morbidity (<em>Scifres 2011<\/em>). Therefore, these morbidity prediction models should also not be used to deny women the right to a TOL.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Many doctors assume that once you&#8217;ve had a \u201cfailed\u201d VBAC, it means you truly can\u2019t give birth vaginally. However, Phelan (1989) found that many women with CBACs were able to go on and have VBACs with another attempt.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In their study, 53% of women who had a primary labor cesarean and then a TOL CBAC went on to have a VBA2C anyhow. They also found that 56% of women who had 2 cesareans for &#8220;cephalopelvic disproportion&#8221; or &#8220;failure to progress&#8221; during labor (in a primary c-section and then a CBAC) went on to have a VBA2C.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Anecdotally, <em>many <\/em>CBAC mothers in ICAN have gone on to have VBACs in later pregnancies. So although some care providers may try to tell you that your CBAC disqualifies you from another TOL, this is not necessarily true. You might have to search long and hard for a provider who will attend you, but a CBAC mother can indeed go on to have another TOL, and many <em>do <\/em>succeed in having a VBAC. A TOL remains a viable option for those CBAC mothers who want it.<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #8d5024; font-size: x-large;\">Summary<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a;\">Only <em>you <\/em>should get to decide your childbearing plans. They should not be dictated by care providers, other family members, birth politics, or members of the greater community.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a; font-size: medium;\">Only <em>you <\/em>get to decide whether or not to have more children. It&#8217;s very normal after a CBAC to consider yourself &#8220;done&#8221; and ready to end your family because of the disappointment of the CBAC and the physical recovery of yet another cesarean. It&#8217;s also very common for husbands\/partners to pressure women to be &#8220;done&#8221; after a CBAC because they are loathe to see the woman they love risk such a difficult journey again. Yet it&#8217;s important not to take permanent birth control measures too soon after a CBAC; many women who think they are &#8220;done&#8221; afterwards go on to change their minds with time. Wait at least a year or two (and preferably longer) before you make any permanent decisions.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a; font-size: medium;\">If you do decide to have more children, only <em>you <\/em>should\u00a0get to decide whether or not to go for another VBAC. This is a very personal decision and should not be made because of birth politics or unsupportive care providers. It should come from a deep inner knowing of what&#8217;s right for <em>you<\/em>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a;\">Some women have complications or circumstances that make another TOL unwise. Obviously, a repeat cesarean in this situation is the best choice, but it&#8217;s perfectly fine to have ambivalent feelings about it. And there <em>are <\/em>ways to plan even an unwanted cesarean to make it feel more empowering and family-centered.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a; font-size: medium;\">Some women cannot face the disappointment of the possibility of another CBAC and so choose a repeat cesarean. <em>There is nothing wrong with this choice.<\/em>\u00a0There can be healing in this choice too.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a;\">Some women choose to go for a VBAC again. Since a \u201cfailed\u201d TOL cannot be predicted accurately, because maternal morbidity cannot be predicted accurately, and because\u00a0<em>more than half of women who try for another VBAC will get one<\/em>,<em>\u00a0<\/em>another TOL can be a legitimate choice too.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a; font-size: medium;\">Although many providers will discourage this,\u00a0there <em>are <\/em>doctors and midwives who will attend VBAC after more than one prior cesarean. Many women in ICAN have had multiple TOLs, and many have gone on to have a VBAC in time.<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a;\">Perhaps you are not sure what choice is right for you. Many CBAC mothers enter another pregnancy not knowing whether or not they want to make another VBAC attempt or have a repeat cesarean. It&#8217;s perfectly normal to not be sure, or to waver in your decision at times during your pregnancy.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #2a2a2a;\">Nearly every CBAC mother second-guesses her decision at some point in the pregnancy, even if she was sure of her choice at the start. If you are not sure what to do, ask yourself which decision would give you the most peace in the long term, looking back at it after many years. &#8220;Try on&#8221; each decision for several days or weeks and see how it makes you feel. In the end, your heart will lead you to the decision that is right for <em>you<\/em>.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">Whatever a woman&#8217;s decision, whether for a repeat cesarean or another VBAC attempt, her choice should be respected. In the end, the decision should be up to the <em>mother<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"color: #248d42;\">Resources<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.childbirthconnection.org\/article.asp?ck=10212\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.childbirthconnection.org\/article.asp?ck=10212<\/a> &#8211; excellent evidence-based summary of the benefits and risks of birth choice after a previous cesarean<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #009900; font-size: x-large;\">References<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Silver RM,\u00a0Landon MB,\u00a0Rouse DJ,\u00a0Leveno KJ,\u00a0Spong CY,\u00a0Thom EA,\u00a0Moawad AH,\u00a0Caritis SN,\u00a0Harper M,\u00a0Wapner RJ,\u00a0Sorokin Y,\u00a0Miodovnik M,\u00a0Carpenter M,Peaceman AM,\u00a0O&#8217;Sullivan MJ,\u00a0Sibai B,\u00a0Langer O,\u00a0Thorp JM,\u00a0Ramin SM,\u00a0Mercer BM;\u00a0National Institute of Child Health and Human Development Maternal-Fetal Medicine Units Network. Maternal morbidity associated with multiple repeat cesarean deliveries.\u00a0Obstet Gynecol.\u00a02006 Jun;107(6):1226-32.\u00a0PMID: <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/16738145\" target=\"_blank\">16738145<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rosen T.\u00a0Placenta accreta and\u00a0cesarean\u00a0scar\u00a0pregnancy: overlooked costs of the rising\u00a0cesarean\u00a0section rate.\u00a0Clin Perinatol.\u00a02008 Sep;35(3):519-29, x. doi: 10.1016\/j.clp.2008.07.003. PMID:\u00a0<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/18952019\" target=\"_blank\">18952019<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Dinsmoor MJ, Brock EL. <em>Predicting failed trial of labor after primary cesarean delivery. <\/em>Obstet Gynecol 2004 Feb;103(2):282-6. PMID: <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pubmed.gov\/14754696\" target=\"_blank\">14754696<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Grobman WA, Lai Y, Landon MB, Spong CY, Leveno KJ, Rouse DJ, et al., for the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development Maternal-Fetal Medicine Units Network.\u00a0<em>Development of a nomogram for prediction of vaginal birth after cesarean delivery.<\/em>\u00a0Obstet Gynecol 2007;109:806\u201312. 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Maternal morbidity. <\/em>\u00a0American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology.\u00a0 2001 Jun;184(7):1365-71; discussion 1371-3.\u00a0 PMID: <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pubmed.gov\/11408854\" target=\"_blank\">11408854<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Durnwald C and Mercer B.\u00a0 <em>Vaginal birth after Cesarean delivery: predicting success, risks of failure. <\/em>J Matern Fetal Neonatal Med 2004 Jun;15(6):388-93.\u00a0 PMID: <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pubmed.gov\/15280110\" target=\"_blank\">15280110<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Scifres CM, Rohn A, Odibo A, Stamilio D, Macones GA.\u00a0 <em>Predicting significant maternal morbidity in women attempting vaginal birth after cesarean section.<\/em>\u00a0 Am J Perinatol 2011 Mar;28(3):181-6. PMID: <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pubmed.gov\/20842616\" target=\"_blank\">20842616<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Phelan J et al. <em>Twice a cesarean, always a cesarean?<\/em> Obstetrics and Gynecology 1989 Feb;73(2):161-5. 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