{"id":85,"date":"2015-08-06T02:53:47","date_gmt":"2015-08-06T02:53:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ican-online.org\/cbac\/?page_id=85"},"modified":"2015-08-06T02:53:47","modified_gmt":"2015-08-06T02:53:47","slug":"cbac-support-group-topics","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.ican-online.org\/cbac\/supporting-cbac-mothers\/cbac-support-group-topics\/","title":{"rendered":"CBAC Support Group Topics"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"content\">\n<div id=\"content-main\">\n<div id=\"wsite-content\" class=\"wsite-elements wsite-not-footer\">\n<h2 class=\"wsite-content-title\"><span style=\"color: #990000; font-size: x-large;\">CBAC Support Group Topics<\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"paragraph\">\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If you are an ICAN Chapter Leader, you are probably always looking for good themes or topics for your support group meetings.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s important not to avoid CBAC-related topics in your meetings, because sometimes CBACs <em>do <\/em>happen and it&#8217;s important to raise awareness of this. It&#8217;s also important to make sure your CBAC members feel like their concerns have been addressed from time to time too.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a list of CBAC-oriented meeting topics you could use for your support groups. At the bottom of the page are ideas for discussion questions, speakers, or individual study topics.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Feel free to email in additional ideas to kmom AT plus-size-pregnancy \u00a0DOT org.<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #8d5024; font-size: x-large;\">CBAC-Oriented Meeting Topics<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>What Not To Say To a CBAC Mom<\/strong> \u2013 A great topic to really get discussion going and vent some frustrations; the corollary is what TO say to a CBAC mom to support her. A good first-meeting topic for CBAC-only meetings as it is sure to generate many ideas<\/p>\n<p><strong>When VBAC dreams turn into CBAC reality<\/strong> \u2013 For the general chapter, to acknowledge that CBACs happen and to help them plan how to ease that experience should it occur. Let CBAC moms from your chapter run the meeting and be the speakers in charge<\/p>\n<p><strong>Coping with Unexpected Outcomes<\/strong> \u2013 For the general chapter or for CBAC moms, general discussion about how to cope with unexpected outcomes, surprises, losses, physical complications from the cesarean, social repercussions, etc.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dealing with Jealousy <\/strong>\u2013 Jealousy is a common reaction in grieving people. CBAC moms often wonder, \u201cWhy did this go wrong for me when I did everything \u2018right\u2019? How come it worked for other people who did things \u2018wrong\u2019? How can I get beyond my jealousy?\u201d Even wishing CS on other people is common \u2500 \u201cI didn&#8217;t get my VBAC so I hope that person doesn\u2019t either.\u201d These are ugly thoughts to forgive yourself for having, but they are <em>normal<\/em>.\u00a0 Talking about these things openly can help us acknowledge these feelings, move beyond them more, and help us forgive ourselves for being only too human<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deciding About Future Children<\/strong><strong> &#8211; <\/strong>A common source of angst for CBAC mothers is whether or not to have more children, and if so, by ERCS or another TOL. Give women coming from a variety of perspectives an opportunity to discuss this all-important issue. For example:<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><em>If you are not done having children &#8211; <\/em>What are you contemplating about having future kids?\u00a0 What are your plans re: birth choices?\u00a0 Why? What are your fears and concerns about these decisions?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><em>If you are sure you are done having children &#8211; <\/em>How do you feel about that? How do you feel about never being able to fulfill your birth dreams? How will you make peace with that? Should you even try? How can you continue to make use of your wealth of birth-related knowledge?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><em>If you are unsure about having more children &#8211; <\/em>What are the arguments for and against having more children in your mind? How can you move forward in making that decision? How does your partner feel about the issue?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <strong>Celebrating What You DID Do<em> \u2013 <\/em><\/strong>How can you give yourself credit for the things you DID do, the work you did towards a VBAC, the accomplishments you did make along the way? Can you turn from an outcome-only focus, redefine \u201csuccess,\u201d and focus on the journey as the path to growth and maybe even healing?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Healing from Traumatic Birth<\/strong> \u2013 Have a therapist familiar with childbirth-related grief come to a meeting and discuss practical ways to process trauma from birth. Perhaps bring in speakers\/guests who can discuss EMDR, EFT, PTSD, bodywork, etc.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Healing Spiral<\/strong><em> \u2013 <\/em>Create a healing spiral, play some beautiful music, and let women walk the spiral and find their own insights on the path<\/p>\n<p><strong>Creating Ceremonies and Rituals for Healing<\/strong> <em>\u2013 <\/em>Discuss creating your own ceremony or ritual for working on healing. Hold a bonfire, have everyone write down things that angered or grieved them about their births, and throw the papers into the fire. Create artwork, alone or together, about CBAC. Write letters to those who were at your last birth (express your emotions, tell them lessons they should learn, give them tasks they should work on). Have a birth therapist come in and speak to the group about possibilities for creating unique ceremonies for healing and what these might look like<\/p>\n<p><strong>When VBAC Won\u2019t Happen: Coping When a VBAC Is Not In The Cards<\/strong><em> \u2013 <\/em>One of the most difficult situations is helping women who will never get a VBAC come to terms with that loss and find some peace with it. Bring in a birth therapist and have them discuss ways to mourn the loss of your birthing dreams without letting that define your identity as a woman or as a mother<\/p>\n<p><strong>Where do CBAC moms fit into ICAN and birth advocacy? <\/strong>Many CBAC moms still feel very strongly about birth issues but struggle with advocacy because it brings up so many painful feelings for them. Some channel their pain to create change on a larger scale, while others need to put advocacy on hold, returning to it when ready. Some focus instead on related topics, like breastfeeding, postpartum support, or promoting midwifery. Others find their own little corner of \u201cmicro-advocacy,\u201d what they can do to help on a small scale without having to re-open old wounds. Laureen Hudson (from an idea by Loren Eiseley) asks: \u201cWhat precisely do you want to fix? What&#8217;s the <em>one<\/em> thing that would have helped you, that if you can change it for one other woman, you will feel that you will have done good?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: x-large;\"><span style=\"color: #8d5024;\">Possible Discussion Questions\/Openers<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>What does CBAC support look like? <\/strong>\u2013 What do they need from a CBAC support group? What does CBAC support NOT look like? What rules\/boundaries do we need as a CBAC support group? A good topic for a very first CBAC-only meeting to establish rules of the road for the meetings<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>How was your second (third, etc.) cesarean different than your first?\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0\u2013\u00a0Compare and contrast the good and bad things about your cesareans<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>When you considered the possibility of a CBAC, how was your vision different than your reality?\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013\u00a0What things went as planned, what didn\u2019t? Was there anything about your CBAC that surprised you?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>Good\/Bad things about my CBAC <\/strong>\u2013 Take a piece of paper, divide into two columns (or maybe three).\u00a0 Label them \u201cpositive,\u201d \u201cnegative,\u201d and \u201cunclear.\u201d\u00a0 Ask women to brainstorm silently for a few minutes what was good\/bad about their CBAC experience. Emphasize that it\u2019s okay to have lots of negative stuff on the list and they may or may not come up with positive stuff, but just to reflect on their CBAC<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>What I got\/learned from my CBAC<\/strong> \u2013 Same thing, just reflecting on the lessons of their CBAC, if any. Emphasize that it\u2019s okay not to have all the answers, and it\u2019s normal if their answers are all negative at first<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>What helped\/didn\u2019t help in my CBAC experience? <\/strong>\u2013 What did medical people\/support people\/loved ones do in your CBAC that was helpful or not helpful?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>What people said to me after my CBAC <\/strong>\u2013 Recount what people said to you after your CBAC, how it impacted you, whether or not you thought it was helpful and why<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>CBAC Hot Buttons <\/strong>\u2013 What things about other people\u2019s perceptions of CBAC really make you angry or set you off?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>How did CBAC impact your body image\/self-esteem?\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013\u00a0Did the CBAC impact your body image or self-esteem? If so, in what way? What overall issues from your life did it reflect?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>CBAC as catalyst for change\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>Was there anything transformational about your CBAC? How is it an agent of change in your life? How do you feel about the changes that have occurred, positive or negative, as a result of your CBAC?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>How did my partner\/spouse feel about my CBAC?\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>How is your partner\/spouse responding to the CBAC? Were they traumatized by it in any way? What do they think about the possibility of future children, future births? How have their perceptions affected your relationship?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>Perception of CBACs moms in midwifery, birth activist, VBAC communities?<\/strong>\u00a0\u2013\u00a0What kind of reaction have you gotten about your CBAC from the various natural birth communities? How does that make you feel? What would you like to change?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>Self-blame, anger, and what-ifs \u2013 how can we deal with these constructively?\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013\u00a0Anger can be a positive force in someone\u2019s life, or it can be a destructive cancer eating you from within. Anger and self-blame are very common after a CBAC; how do we keep these from becoming destructive to us?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>Exploring our feelings about our CBACs more deeply\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013\u00a0Explore the complexity of your feelings about CBAC and ask yourself: What purpose is it serving for me to carry this feeling? Who would I be without this pain\/guilt\/anger? What can I do to move through these feelings? How can I transform them towards a positive purpose?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>How do CBAC moms who go on to have a VBAC fit into the CBAC community?\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013\u00a0What do they need to be careful of? Do they have unique processing issues? Does the sense of self-doubt ever go away in future births? How can they be sensitive to the needs of women who don\u2019t have VBACs?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>How do CBAC moms who never have a VBAC (for whatever reason) fit into the CBAC community?\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013\u00a0Into the VBAC\/Cesarean Awareness community? What are their unique processing issues?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><strong>If I had another CBAC, how would I improve the experience?<\/strong>\u00a0\u2013\u00a0What advice would I give another woman trying to plan for the possibility of a CBAC?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Healing in the Face of Disappointment <\/strong>\u2013 How can we find healing after a disappointing life experience that we can never change? Can we find\/create ceremonies or rituals that help us move along the path of healing? Can we transform the power of those feelings into action for change or support for others? How?<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>CBAC Support Group Topics If you are an ICAN Chapter Leader, you are probably always looking for good themes or topics for your support group meetings. It&#8217;s important not to avoid CBAC-related topics in your meetings, because sometimes CBACs do happen and it&#8217;s important to raise awareness of this. 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